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04. Martin Kubie - Finding Beauty in Nuclear Fusion

Born to solve insane engineering problems, Martin Kubie is in his element as co-founder of Proxima Fusion. We sat down in London to talk all things ambition, beauty, and putting the sun in a box.

With a CV that reads like an engineering honour roll, Martin Kubie is a proud Scot with an effervescent and uniquely West Coast US take on both ambition and the optimism it requires.

He’s a co-founder of one of the world’s best funded nuclear fusion companies, Proxima Fusion, where he’s building on a decade of engineering best practice learned across Cambridge University, McLaren F1, Google X and Wing to develop a totally new stellarator reactor design - arguably one of the most complex engineering challenges currently facing mankind.

He’s a lover of life, systems thinker, cycling nut, philosopher engineer, deeply passionate European, and revered leader.

Having watched his incredible trajectory over the last few years, and been consistently fascinated by every conversation I’ve had with him - it was a no brainer to get him on the podcast.

Over a few beers in London this August, we dug into:

  • What the hell nuclear fusion is, and why Proxima is betting on the twisted pretzel stellarator approach

  • How AI has supercharged the development of engineering projects

  • Why engineering is actually all about communication

  • His backstory - from Edinburgh, to London, to San Francisco, and back again

  • How engineering and beauty interact with one another

  • How to build (and hire for) a high performing, fast iterating culture

  • Where Europe can be competitive in the hard tech & energy supremacy races

  • The sheer, unbridled joy of working on problems you care about with people you love

  • Facing fears and diving off bridges

Timestamps:

  • 00:00 — Who is Martin Kubie?

  • 01:06 — A €411M funding round: what Proxima actually does

  • 01:56 — Stellarator vs tokamak: fusion’s religious war

  • 04:40 — W7X: the €2bn machine that changed the game

  • 07:04 — Alpha and the road to net energy gain

  • 07:55 — How do you iterate on a machine you only build once?

  • 13:40 — The best AI-utilising hardware company in the world

  • 16:50 — Edinburgh, Renishaw, and the leap into engineering

  • 19:50 — Mrs Brown, Cambridge, and failing mocks

  • 21:15 — McLaren: the dream job

  • 22:30 — California, Google X, and betting on a junior Brit

  • 24:50 — The linear path ends: saying no to NVIDIA

  • 28:10 — The wedding: two days in the corner with a friend

  • 30:20 — The hot air balloon: engineering and beauty

  • 31:58 — Dyson hand dryers and why version one is always wrong

  • 34:30 — Make the car go faster: lessons from F1

  • 35:55 — The talking monkey: focus on the hard bit

  • 37:30 — “If it’s not used, it’s worthless”

  • 38:22 — Engineering is a communication problem

  • 39:24 — Bricks and skyscrapers

  • 41:06 — Blunt but safe: from confrontation to curiosity

  • 43:04 — Telling good from great: how Proxima hires

  • 47:02 — Culture, blameless reviews, and leading from the front

  • 50:12 — The European flag: why he came home

  • 52:20 — Competing with Boston and Shenzhen on European terms

  • 55:21 — What actually scares him

  • 56:45 — The bridge in Zurich

  • 58:30 — Quick-fire: cheese, McLaren, Lego, and what comes after fusion

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